This is a special & exclusive episode which is actually one of the interviews I did for my newly released book…

Leading with Vulnerability: Unlock Your Greatest Superpower to Transform Yourself, Your Team, and Your Organization.

Today’s Conversation is with Jerry Norcia, Chairman, CEO, & President of DTE Energy: a 10,000 employee company with a revenue of $19.29 billion! He underscores the power of trust, collaboration, and adaptability. Leadership, he says, is about fostering growth and resilience.

Tune in as Jerry shares his candid experiences, stories, and insights on being vulnerable at work and the impact it has had on his business and on him as a leader.


How to genuinely listen to employees for effective leadership.

How to cultivate a culture of trust and collaboration.

How to navigate challenges with open communication and adaptability.

How to leverage elevated energy for improved decision-making and leadership.

To hear from more Jerry and to learn from the over 100 other CEO I interviewed, make sure to grab a copy of my new book out NOW: Leading With Vulnerability.

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